[ETR #97] The "Awkward" Way I Skipped 2 Interview Rounds


Hi fellow data professional!

In undergrad, in pursuit of a coveted TV internship, I once cold messaged an alum of my school using an email I found on his acting reel.

When we finally got on the phone it wasn’t the warm handshake connection I was seeking; he spent time grilling me on my intentions and skills.

After I hung up I thought “what a jerk.” In my yet-to-be-developed mind I thought as long as I went to the effort of getting someone on the phone they’d reward that initiative with a job, not greet my eagerness with skepticism.

A few calls and emails later resulted in me skipping 2 interview rounds and getting a job offer.

Recently, I saw the term “virtual coffee” used and I thought “oh, that's what I was doing...”

"Virtual Coffee" is the act of creating favorable conditions for a cold conversation without expectation, the same reason single folks go on coffee dates.

In the professional world, the "Virtual Coffee" is the "Third Door."

Most folks are banging on the Front Door (the HR portal/ATS), competing with 500 other resumes for the attention of a tired recruiter. Others are looking for the Back Door (an employee referral), which is great, but requires you to actually know someone well enough to ask for a favor.

The Virtual Coffee is the side entrance. It’s for the person who isn’t asking for a job today, but is asking for a blueprint.

The reason this works (and the reason my undergrad self failed at first) is that a job request is a heavy lift. It requires the other person to stake their reputation on a stranger.

A coffee chat, however, is a low-lift ego boost. People love talking about their work, their mistakes, and their "grizzled" opinions on whether Jupyter or VS Code is the best way to write production code.

By framing your ask as a "virtual coffee," you’re signaling that you aren't there to sell; you're there to ingest. And that lack of pressure is exactly what creates the "favorable conditions" I mentioned earlier.

Here is the secret: When you treat someone like an expert rather than a gatekeeper, they stop acting like a jerk and start acting like a mentor.

That skeptical alum from my TV days wasn't trying to be a jerk; he was vetting me. Once I stopped looking for a handout and started looking for insight, the dynamic shifted.

This extra step provides:

A role's "Unspoken" Requirements: Learning that the team actually hates dbt and wants someone who knows Airflow, which can be critical info that isn't in the job description

The Skip-Level Advantage: Transitioning from a "cold contact" to a "known entity" before an opening even goes live

Professional Enrichment: Sometimes, I just walk away with a new tool to research or a query optimization tip

If you’re currently slogging through a job search or feeling stagnant in your current role, I suggest finding a side door. Find an alum, a LinkedIn connection, or an engineer at a company you admire.

Offer them 15 minutes and a virtual coffee. No pitch, no resume attached to the first email, just a curiosity about how they built what they built.

And if they’re too busy, the next best thing is to ask if you can send them specific questions to answer by email.

It might be awkward at first, but it’s the most effective way to ensure your reception is as warm as that cup of coffee.

And if you want to make yourself more findable, learn how to suppress any professional shyness and crush virtual introductions with my shameless approach to personal branding.

Thanks for ingesting,

-Zach Quinn

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